tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3061151769554387628.post7346240346664065419..comments2008-12-20T00:22:48.979ZCalumCarrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14793957937862873768noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3061151769554387628.post-48358521208586739862008-12-20T00:22:00.000Z2008-12-20T00:22:00.000ZToday saw a man who works in a centre....he is somewhat non conforming :) grew to like him as he talked and said how the mental health team did not like him.....:)<BR/><BR/>He has a tendency to be well known for his clients he helps (free) not NHS, who have alcohol and so forth problems due to anxiety and depression, abuse, he has worked with them for twenty years.....<BR/><BR/>He knew it all, spot on, immediately he stated five treatments they had never offered and are free.....he was angry they had not offered them. He wanted to know why....<BR/><BR/>He would be banging on their desks :) making them provide the treatment they are meant to do so, he stated how someone can have anxiety, depression, abuse, in their life's...overdose...they do not know how to fit you, which box to put you in...you could fit in depression, anxiety and so on ....but instead they do this, they think oh we know personality disorder :) and they shove you in the box.<BR/><BR/>he goes with people and states how they have to talk to them, he is very straight and abrupt, but very likable :) came away with the impression that this is the type of person who could get the job done. They also have to listen, do as he says, as he works within his field which is just bonus.....<BR/><BR/>he normally refers to others once he has seen someone but he has taken me on, because of how they have treated me....or rather lack off. Not personal to me at all, was very apparent to me this was the way they treated everyone, just how they work their system.<BR/><BR/>Even someone on the crisis line stated how many people phone.....that are so left with nothing, no help support, feel treated badly. He works on the line but is unconnected to them. It was very apparent from majority of people that no one really felt the system worked for them, regardless of the nature of their illness or they had a struggle to access the support they required. <BR/><BR/>CMHT......if you were not already in a crisis you will be once you met them.....some others think they secretly work for the tea bag people as when you phone suicidal....anxiety high depression they suggest a cup of tea.......:)as if there is some handbook somewhere.....<BR/><BR/>So hopefully this will adjust things slightly, it is just sad for people that it has to come to that.<BR/><BR/>Finding the right person to help you seems to be a major part of the battle. The Doctors work within the system and have come to the conclusion are limited, personally believe at times, probably feel just as frustrated at times as the patients do when they refer them on.<BR/><BR/>FeathersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3061151769554387628.post-30149691186897621002008-12-14T21:18:00.000Z2008-12-14T21:18:00.000ZI know you will not want to hear this Calum but there are some patients whom the system, any medical system, is unable to help. <BR/>It is a great shame that David did not get into the detox program but maybe that would have been only a temporary stopgap. <BR/><BR/>We have a much better system than the NHS, although not perfect by any means, but I used to see the same thing over and over when a chronic alcoholic patient would be admitted to the hospital, treated for a while and discharged. But there has to be some cooperation on the part of the patient. When they were discharged they returned to their old ways and the cycle continued until ultimately they quit drinking or they died.<BR/><BR/>It is so frustrating for medical personnel in these situations. They put every effort into trying to help these people but they thwart all attempts to help until eventually, with the limited time and resources they have, they put their energies into other patients whom they might be able to help. <BR/><BR/>Dr Crippen has been railing against the NHS system for quite a long time. He is but one example of a caring medical person who is frustrated in trying to help his patients, not only David. <BR/><BR/>This is a heartbreaking story and I hope that someone was able to provide David with help get him off his cycle of self destructive behaviour.jmbhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13563252743976699923noreply@blogger.com